Buy your second machine first. It's very expensive to upgrade to a bigger and/or better model. You'll be happier, longer with more machine.
What are your interests? Signs, general woodworking, string instruments, or ?? Would you do more with a more capable machine? I went from an Xcarve to my Axiom 8 Pro+. I went from an under powered toy to a machine that actually does what I require. The longer I own a CNC, the tougher my requirements get. So far, it does all I've asked, without a hitch.
If you're on the fence, bigger is better. Less chance to outgrow.
The i2R is more like the Next Wave Shark in price, except it's made much better and looks to be more solid than a Shark would ever hope to be. gerry is correct! buy the most machine you can afford. I bought the AR4 basic. A great machine, but if could do it all over again, I would have bought the AR6 Pro. I simply didn't have the funds at the time and didn't want to finance a machine. That being said, I have since purchased a water cooled spindle with a VFD and now have a machine that doesn't scream all day long when running a long cut.
Post by traindriver on Dec 2, 2018 14:44:10 GMT -5
Every CNC forum I looked at for years had the same advice gerry gave: buy your second machine first. I started out wanting to get the 24" x 24" model and use a router, but after talking with the guys at Axiom about what I wanted to do, I realized that I needed the water-cooled spindle - a $1k upgrade at that time. After coming to grips with the increase in price, I figured, for $500 more, I could get a 24 x 36, and heck, if I'm going to do that, I might as well spend the extra $500 for the 24 x 48. Did I have the money for it? No. Did I have the space for it? At the time, no. Everything in the garage was on wheels, and I moved the machines outside to use them, and the Axiom made it even more cramped. BUT . . . that was 3 1/2 yeasrs ago. I used my credit card and paid off as much as I had, and the rest over time. I wouldn't have the money I would've saved if I'd bought what I originally planned, because I would've spent it on something else, and I'd have a decent machine that would do some of the stuff I want to do. Now, the pain of the purchase is over, and I have an AR8 to enjoy.
I had to base the purchase on the fact that being retired, I didn't have the extra income to spend the extra needed to get more machine. I am very happy with the AR4 and the spindle I installed. It works great and I have had no problems except for forgetting to turn on the spindle before I start the cut. It's only happened once, and I did break a bit when it happened.
I have pre-ordered the i2r-6 and must say I am pretty excited. Axiom always seemed to be in the most recommended machines to look at but have been out of my budgetary range. I was considering the Shapeoke then I laid eyes on the i2r series and that was all I needed. I look forward to being part of the Axiom family.
Curious if anyone who made pre-orders for the i2r have received them yet? I see the ship dates continue to slip and have yet to see any unboxing/reviews done on the new Axiom i2R's. Looking to jump into the world of CNC but am awaiting to see the first round of reviews and feedback on these new machines from Axiom.
Post by Axiom Tool Group on Mar 27, 2019 11:09:52 GMT -5
There were a few small delays as this new machines was being released and thanks to one of the major wires being too short, our shipment was delayed. However, shipment for the i2R machines has finally began...
i2R4 and i2R8 machines began leaving our facilities early this week. We will be working diligently over the next few days to work through the orders and get everyones machine tested and shipped.
I got my phone call from Craig this morning (I opted to upgrade from the i2r-6 to the i2r-8 and I was told my machine would be heading out on the truck today or tomorrow. Super excited to say the least.
I just typed i2R cnc on the computer and other companies are selling the machine using UCNC software and not the B11 controller. The price is the same everywhere, but I originally thought Axiom was to be the only seller here in the US. The gantry uprights are different colors, but the machine is the same and is available in all 3 sizes. Am I wrong on this??
stevem I have noticed the same thing and am somewhat confused. Seems to be exact same minus the colors and the controller. If you go to i2rcnc.com they show machines shipping out late March. Axiom Tool Group, can you tell us the story on the i2rcnc versions compared to the Axiom versions?
Post by Axiom Tool Group on Mar 28, 2019 13:46:51 GMT -5
Maybe we can shed a little light on the i2R situation.
Essentially, there are two separate companies involved....i2R CNC (New York) and Axiom Tool Group, Inc.
While the two machines are built side by side in the same facility, we (at Axiom) feel strongly that a digital signal processor (DSP control) is a far more reliable, robust and user friendly control solution, which ultimately will help you produce high quality parts with the least amount of drama.
The i2R team focuses primarily on the first time user, and "maker" community who are often drawn to the enhanced graphics and familiarity of a PC control, however, Axiom primarily sells to a more advanced and experienced user who values the consistency and simplicity that comes with the intuitive RichAuto B series DSP controllers. An independent DSP controller allows the operator to modify and create files on their PC while the CNC router is running and also eliminates the potential for virus issues, RAM deficiencies and windows updates gone wrong.
We do agree that there is a market for each approach, however, we feel that removing the unpredictability of a PC and its many quirky software challenges dramatically improves the user experience. This philosophy has served us well throughout the last several-thousand successful CNC installations.