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Post by pacebedo on Feb 16, 2018 16:03:12 GMT -5
I just pre-ordered the above accessory.
Any thoughts? Please advise. Thank you.
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Post by BigMoose on Feb 16, 2018 16:22:39 GMT -5
I think if you put in a link it didnt take. There is no above accessory on your post.
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Post by pacebedo on Feb 16, 2018 16:36:04 GMT -5
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Post by stevem on Feb 16, 2018 16:47:16 GMT -5
Very nice, but $500? That's alot for steel tubing. I really like all the accessories Axiom offers, but some are just to expensive for my taste.
When I got my ,achine, I got the stand and tool box. They are made just like their machine. Super solid and built like a tank!
Seems like you could make it out of PVC for $30-$50. It wouldn't be as nice as what they offer, but I could use the extra cash to buy other accessories, like really good cnc bits.
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Post by BigMoose on Feb 16, 2018 17:32:00 GMT -5
I'm sure it is well built like the rest of their stuff but $500 just seems to be to much for what it is. If I win the lotto I might get it but I doubt that will happen. Lol
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Post by ricphoto on Feb 16, 2018 18:20:46 GMT -5
Value just wasn't there for me either...couldn't figure out how they justified that price for what shows unless I'm missing something major
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Post by stevem on Feb 16, 2018 18:31:36 GMT -5
Well it does have the Axiom (A) at the base that was cut from metal. But for me, if it were about $200 I would possibly buy it.
I may try to make something like it, but I have to many projects going on for now.
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Post by savannahdan on Feb 16, 2018 18:38:19 GMT -5
Seems to be similar in pricing as the table saw overarm dust units. I'm in the same boat that I could probably make something out of pvc pipe and use the savings bits or other things. I do admit that it looks really nice.
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Post by stevem on Feb 16, 2018 18:49:17 GMT -5
Like I said!!! It's the Axiom A that is cut out of metal for the brace that is making it $500. LOL,LOL
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Post by savannahdan on Feb 16, 2018 18:55:36 GMT -5
Thanks, I'll incorporate The Axiom A in my design.
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Post by stevem on Feb 16, 2018 18:57:38 GMT -5
That's why we have a CNC machine. We can cut out the A ourselves!
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Post by dickdelmi on Feb 17, 2018 16:19:13 GMT -5
Here is the setup I use for my AR4Pro, router table and table saw. Didn't cost $500 and works fine. As Admiral Kashnikov of the Russian Navy said "Perfection is the enemy of good enough".   |
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Post by tomlaw10 on Feb 19, 2018 19:25:56 GMT -5
There is a potential problem with there design, I have the same layout but I'm attached to the ceiling. Started having infrequent intermittent (could be 20 hours running ok) problems with the X axis being off, some time by inches. Was watching it run and discovered the problem. The vacuum hose would start laying on the gantry when it was about a foot behind the hose drop (like the Axiom picture) and continue doing that while forward of the drop and most times to the RH side. Every time the spindle would move to the right the hose would get pinched between the spindle tower and the RH side frame of the gantry. Most times it would just get pushed forward and pop out. But when I would have the X axis errors, the hose would bind there and you could hear the motor stall, then it would pop out when the tower moved back to the left and continue running the job.
My simple fix was to wire tie the hose to the Z axis motor plastic cover, plan on coming up with a better way of attaching but working ok and haven't spent the time, and no more errors.
  
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Post by dickdelmi on Feb 20, 2018 18:05:40 GMT -5
If you take a close look at my set up you will see that I have wire tied the 4" dust hose coupling to the motor cover also. This makes it easy to disconnect the hose for use on the other machines.
Maybe Axiom should consider including a short section of hose and a coupler with their dust shoe.
Save new buyers a lot of time and effort.
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Post by rcastrap on Mar 3, 2018 0:07:39 GMT -5
I pre-ordered one also. Good dust collection in the garage keeps the wife happy. Axiom, if you’re listening, I have a couple of questions. When will the overhead dust system be shipping? Does it include a dust boot?
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Post by Axiom Tool Group on Mar 22, 2018 15:06:05 GMT -5
The overarm accessory, or first shipment of them, has just arrived and started shipping this week.
This does not include the Dust Shoe, which is still needed.
Personally I understand the reluctance with the $500 price tag. This accessory isn't for everyone, its intention is to replace the costly metal duct work installation in shops and make it easier with a machine on casters to keep the dust collection nearby.
Its also the perfect example of why things produced in the United States cost more. Many of you know that our machines are produced in Taiwan, which allows us to offer a higher quality machine at competitive pricing where some competitors offer a plastic machine manufactured in the U.S. at similar prices.
In the case of the Overarm Accessory, which is actually manufactured here in the U.S. there are much higher material and manufacturing costs involved. Hence the $500 price tag.
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Post by savannahdan on Mar 22, 2018 15:58:45 GMT -5
I do have to say that the overarm shows in the video as being very well made. And, it cool that it includes the Axiom "A". How is it with static? I'm very hesitant to touch my spindle with a dust collection hose due to the amount of static that can be generated.
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Post by Axiom Tool Group on Mar 26, 2018 15:13:03 GMT -5
Both the machine and dust collector should be grounded offering plenty of safety, though I understand the concern with static.
Honestly though, this is far less metal for the dust to run through than a metal, or PVC, duct work system. At least here, its directly mounted to a grounded machine.
Yes, some will save money and use PVC pipe for dust collector systems....(Yikes!) Big savings but an increased risk of static etc.
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Post by zaxis4 on Mar 30, 2018 9:07:40 GMT -5
I just pre-ordered the above accessory. Any thoughts? Please advise. Thank you. If one is spending $5,000-11,000.00 for a CNC machine $500.00 doesn't seem like such a big deal to me, especially since the stand to put it on costs that much. it probably works great and it looks great. Why spend that kind of money for a good machine and then try to nickel and dime a dust system for it. Just sayin!!!  I can't say what I spent!!!!  Dust control is everything.....unless your outside.  |
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Post by redwood on Mar 30, 2018 13:48:08 GMT -5
Now that's a shop, though I'm not sure I could move in there.
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Post by zaxis4 on Mar 30, 2018 13:52:58 GMT -5
Thanks for the complement Redwood. It's just a basement shop but it took about 10 years to get to this point. Dust is a big deal so it does not go everywhere in the house. My dust system was top priority.
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Post by branson on Apr 8, 2018 21:06:56 GMT -5
Thanks for the complement Redwood. It's just a basement shop but it took about 10 years to get to this point. Dust is a big deal so it does not go everywhere in the house. My dust system was top priority. I see you have the laguna pflux system....looks like the 1.5 ho from the pic but hard to make out. How do you like it? Is the noise and issue in that small of a space? I’m looking at it but haven’t pulled the trigger yet. |
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Post by zaxis4 on Apr 15, 2018 20:09:26 GMT -5
It is a Pflux 1 1/2 HP and it is fantastic!!! I give it 5 stars. I run only one blast gate at a time, sometimes 2 and the suction is excellent at any tool I use. I think any dust collector would be a little noisy but I generally use hearing protectors anyway. I don't know if the Nordfab ducting is making it that much more efficient but the performance is way beyond my expectations. CNC and Planer dust are non issues with my system. Router table and Band saw as well as spindle and drum sanders are dust free.
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Post by JohnnyBeWood on Apr 16, 2018 17:59:36 GMT -5
If one is spending $5,000-11,000.00 for a CNC machine $500.00 doesn't seem like such a big deal to me, especially since the stand to put it on costs that much. it probably works great and it looks great. Why spend that kind of money for a good machine and then try to nickel and dime a dust system for it. Just sayin!!! I can't say what I spent!!!! Dust control is everything.....unless your outside.
I am very envious. Wow. With any luck I'll be able to sell my house within a couple years and start a basement shop like that!
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Post by zaxis4 on Apr 16, 2018 20:19:13 GMT -5
Not really sure how I should take that. It has been lifelong hobby and profession. It took a long time to get to this point in my shop and I am not bragging about it. And yes I am proud of it!! So whatever  |
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Post by JohnnyBeWood on Apr 16, 2018 21:21:52 GMT -5
Not really sure how I should take that. It has been lifelong hobby and profession. It took a long time to get to this point in my shop and I am not bragging about it. And yes I am proud of it!! So whatever Nothing rude was said or meant. It was a compliment. I'm also slowly building up my shop and really would like a basement someday so I could have that kind of setup. Dont want to be cold running a gas heater in my garage anymore. :-) |
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Post by zaxis4 on Apr 16, 2018 22:22:46 GMT -5
OK I understand your meaning now. I was hoping you took my post that way. I sure don't want to portray myself as a show off or better than anyone else. That's the problem with posts sometimes. The meaning gets clouded. Thanks you for the complement. It looks like you are having a great time with your Axiom.
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Post by grg on Apr 25, 2018 14:26:03 GMT -5
There is a potential problem with there design, I have the same layout but I'm attached to the ceiling. Started having infrequent intermittent (could be 20 hours running ok) problems with the X axis being off, some time by inches. Was watching it run and discovered the problem. The vacuum hose would start laying on the gantry when it was about a foot behind the hose drop (like the Axiom picture) and continue doing that while forward of the drop and most times to the RH side. Every time the spindle would move to the right the hose would get pinched between the spindle tower and the RH side frame of the gantry. Most times it would just get pushed forward and pop out. But when I would have the X axis errors, the hose would bind there and you could hear the motor stall, then it would pop out when the tower moved back to the left and continue running the job.
My simple fix was to wire tie the hose to the Z axis motor plastic cover, plan on coming up with a better way of attaching but working ok and haven't spent the time, and no more errors.
A stiffener arm/brace attached to the hose coming up vertically from the dust shoe (12"?) would take care of all that flex that can get in the way of the X axis. Tape/clamp/zip tie two or three pieces of plywood to the hose. It isn't very elegant but would probably solve it. Alternatively, extend the hose connection point above the dust shoe with some rigid galvanized ducting or thin wall PVC to move the flexible part of the hose point above that pinch point. Last ditch, a length of loose bunji cord from a ceiling mounted eye bolt secured to the dust collection hose to keep it gently pulled forward while allowing it to travel the full y axis length would probably do...or, just a different type of less flexible 4" hose coming off the shoe is another consideration. |
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Post by asw01 on May 7, 2018 20:59:18 GMT -5
It is a Pflux 1 1/2 HP and it is fantastic!!! I give it 5 stars. I run only one blast gate at a time, sometimes 2 and the suction is excellent at any tool I use. I think any dust collector would be a little noisy but I generally use hearing protectors anyway. I don't know if the Nordfab ducting is making it that much more efficient but the performance is way beyond my expectations. CNC and Planer dust are non issues with my system. Router table and Band saw as well as spindle and drum sanders are dust free. I had bought a Jet cyclone, on the advice of a dealer that it was the same as the Laguna. Let’s just say it isn’t the same. Thankfully the Woodcraft store stood behind it when Jet wouldn’t. I bought a Pflux-1 and the conversion kit for 230v, and I couldn’t be happier. What a difference! Performance and build quality are 5 stars. I have been looking at the over-arm kit, but elected to build my own. |
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I can't say what I spent!!!! 
Dust control is everything.....unless your outside.
