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Post by pacebedo on Nov 25, 2017 19:41:26 GMT -5
Is it possible to convert the basic model to the pro model by swapping the router to the spindle? If so, how do you do that? Thanks.
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Post by traindriver on Nov 25, 2017 20:54:59 GMT -5
That has been asked before on the forum, and if I'm not mistaken, Axiom says basically, no. The Pro has a variable frequency drive (VFD) for the spindle, a cooling unit for the spindle, and wiring for the spindle. I don't know if the computer control box is the same size or not, but if it is smaller, that would definitely be a problem.
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Post by stevem on Nov 25, 2017 21:35:23 GMT -5
The main control box also has a VFD installed. To change from a basic to a pro wouldn't be worth it.
If you really want a spindle, you would have to buy a after market Chinese one. You would also need a new collar to go from the 3.5" routed down to a 80 mm spindle and then get a new dust boot.
I have a basic as well and am considering getting a spindle for it. Total cost would be about $500-$800 for everything, which is much less than buying the pro model.
Axiom just can't offer a upgrade kit for a basic. It would just cost way more than anyone would be willing to spend.
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Post by pacebedo on Nov 26, 2017 0:05:39 GMT -5
Several sellers are offering spindles as a package, ie it comes with the 2.2kw, 80mm splindle either in 220 or 110v, with collars, vfd, er20 collets, tubes and pumps for around $400. We would just have to buy the interface cable for the control box. What do you think?
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Post by Gary Campbell on Nov 26, 2017 10:24:35 GMT -5
pacebedo...
I don't have any idea of what an individual users knowledge level is when it comes to the skillset required to a spindle self install. You would have to determine where you are on that scale. I can say that I sell a good number of spindle kits for DIY guys every year. Those kits run in the $850 and up range, but include the wiring to spindle and for low voltage control, including relays required on some systems, machining on the clamps and programming of the VFD's. Generic instructions are included.
About 40% of users are able to self install using those instructions and the tech manuals that come with the new and their existing components. You may want to read this as 60% can not. Those that require application specific, step by step customized instruction based on pictures that they provide, of course pay more.
So, my guess is that if you can look at the inner workings of your control box and apply the information provided in the manual for the VFD, you should have no problem. There are also hundreds of posts on the "Zone" regarding spindles & VFD's. Unfortunately there are about 10 times more seeking assistance than offering it.
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Post by stevem on Nov 26, 2017 20:14:05 GMT -5
The basic control box doesn't have the VFD in it. You would still need that to run a spindle. The pro has the spindle included, that control box has the VFD to run there spindle.
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Post by techtonix on Dec 30, 2017 1:17:12 GMT -5
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Post by stevem on Dec 30, 2017 11:39:56 GMT -5
Since the basic has a router mount for a 3.5" router and a spindle has a 80 mm diameter, how did you mount it?
The spindle you have isn't the same as the Axiom, but it's the same size.
I doubt anyone really knows where Axiom gets their spindles, but I am sure they don't buy them off Ebay. LOL
I am considering doing the same thing, which is why I ask about you mounting it.
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Post by techtonix on Dec 30, 2017 15:12:08 GMT -5
This spindle came from Taiwan, direct from the factory (which sells on Ebay) The specs are exactly the same. I CNC'd a circular spacer that makes up the difference between the router clamp diameter and the spindle diameter.
If you compare the power specs, diameter of spindle, and look at the photos, they are exactly the same as the Axiom spindle. I suspect the manufacturer might be the same, or at least they are following the same specs for integration within the local industrial supply chain.
Either way it doesn't matter, that ebay spindle is absolutely amazing. at any RPM, 24k included its as balanced to the micro-gram. No vibration at all...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 16:16:25 GMT -5
How do you know that is the one Axiom is using? They told me their spindle is coming from Taiwan and not China. |
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Post by pacebedo on Jan 25, 2018 14:41:49 GMT -5
I'm interested in finding out how difficult this type of process is. Techtonix, can you please provide a parts list and a brief explanation as to how you did this? Thanks.
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