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Post by jchurch75 on Oct 12, 2020 18:08:33 GMT -5
I've only been using this machine, "iconic-4" for around two months now and I'm at a dead end that I just can't get passed. I designed a very simple file on vcarve desktop 10.5 and I keep getting the message X out of soft. So looking at the parameters on the machine, it shouldn't be out of soft limit. I've set up the file over and over and it doesn't change. I'm starting at the corner and I even tried the center to no avail. I had an issue last week to where the machine made a struggling noise when traveling y-axis. I found that there was a harness underneath on the y axis motor that wasn't pushed in all of the way. Could this somehow have screwed something up? It's running fine now and I made a project from a file that I downloaded, but this file that I'm making just won't cooperate. I hit the home key on the Rich Auto and it goes to the far left lower corner like it has always done. I'm assuming this is homing? If not, any help is appreciated. Thank you,
John
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Post by johnb on Oct 13, 2020 11:39:34 GMT -5
I have a totally different Axiom machine, but try this for your "out of soft(ware limit)" error:
Using your controller, manually jog the gantry to the extreme limits of the X & Y axis (both minimum and maximum)
If you get the error message at any point in this process, your limit switch has likely shifted and the machine "thinks" it's gone too far (hence the error).
The maximum X & Y limits are a calculated distance from the minimum limits (listed in millimeters somewhere within your controller setup).
On my machine, the maximum X & Y limit switches are only there to keep the spindle from crashing into the right side of the gantry or something else at the "top end" of the table, thus you will never be able to jog the gantry far enough over (or up) to actually engage these limit switches when they are properly positioned.
If minimum X limit switch is too far over to the left side of the machine, you won't be able to flatten the entire spoilboard with your flycutting bit and a ridge will be left along the last spoilboard to the right (while you will be "cutting air" to the left of the leftmost spoilboard). The inverse is also true, and the same holds for the minimum Y limit switch.
If your X-0, Y-0 is outside the envelope in which the machine will travel before engaging the (minimum) X and/or Y limit switches, then you will get this error when attempting to home the machine. In that case, move one or both limit switches (slightly), then re-test your manually jog extremes.
Note that you cannot actually cut to the limit of 2'x4' or 4'x 4'. The actual machining area is the imperial equivalent of the metric measure allowed, thus if your soft(ware) limit is 1210 mm, you can only cut 43.678". If your project design size exceeds this, you will get a limit error.
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Post by mnwoodbee on Oct 13, 2020 13:19:44 GMT -5
If your using layers and associate with tool path there could be something in programming outside of the material setup size.
Or
A vector that’s being highlighted unknown to you highlighted when calculated.
Your material is set up for 2ft by 4ft as example and your machine will only cut 23.6” by 47.6.” Like previous reply stated.
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Post by gerry on Oct 13, 2020 14:46:18 GMT -5
If your using layers and associate with tool path there could be something in programming outside of the material setup size. Or A vector that’s being highlighted unknown to you highlighted when calculated. Your material is set up for 2ft by 4ft as example and your machine will only cut 23.6” by 47.6.” Like previous reply stated. I checked the project for bad vectors and it's OK. Vcarve doesn't generate gcode outside the starting point (home) and MaxX, MaxY, so project size is good. It would be a problem if the board was too far left, but then he couldn't set XY=0 to the lower left. |
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Post by Mezalick on Oct 15, 2020 2:20:44 GMT -5
John,
Without seeing the actual file we are all just guessing and trying to help.
As mnwoodbee said , there may be something outside of your machine size.
VCarve will create the GCode for any and all vectors selected whether they're inside your cutting area or not.
For example, create a project 150 mm x 150mm.
Set the XY to the lower left corner.
Now draw a vector from X0Y0 and make the vector 500mm long ( to the right )
Create a profile toolpath, with a single pass depth.
Look at the MMG file created and you'll see the G1 line that's cutting from X0Y0 to X500mm Y0.
I'll be glad to look it over if you would like.
Michael
mm@mezalick.com
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Post by mnwoodbee on Oct 18, 2020 13:44:49 GMT -5
If your using layers and associate with tool path there could be something in programming outside of the material setup size. Or A vector that’s being highlighted unknown to you highlighted when calculated. Your material is set up for 2ft by 4ft as example and your machine will only cut 23.6” by 47.6.” Like previous reply stated. I checked the project for bad vectors and it's OK. Vcarve doesn't generate gcode outside the starting point (home) and MaxX, MaxY, so project size is good. It would be a problem if the board was too far left, but then he couldn't set XY=0 to the lower left. I just ran 3 jobs, highlighting and moving sets Of parts off the sheet, vcarve did generate a tool path beyond my material setup. If I were to save and go to machine it’d prompt out of limit. |
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Post by gerry on Oct 18, 2020 15:54:04 GMT -5
So, send the file and description to Vectric. They will respond.
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Post by Mezalick on Oct 19, 2020 3:59:39 GMT -5
I checked the project for bad vectors and it's OK. Vcarve doesn't generate gcode outside the starting point (home) and MaxX, MaxY, so project size is good. It would be a problem if the board was too far left, but then he couldn't set XY=0 to the lower left. I just ran 3 jobs, highlighting and moving sets Of parts off the sheet, vcarve did generate a tool path beyond my material setup. If I were to save and go to machine it’d prompt out of limit. Yes it did, as expected. This is not a software problem. It is a machine issue or, most likely, a operator error. I would be happy to review you file setting if you would like. Michael mm@mezalick.com |
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Post by mnwoodbee on Oct 19, 2020 7:07:44 GMT -5
I just ran 3 jobs, highlighting and moving sets Of parts off the sheet, vcarve did generate a tool path beyond my material setup. If I were to save and go to machine it’d prompt out of limit. Yes it did, as expected. This is not a software problem. It is a machine issue or, most likely, a operator error. I would be happy to review you file setting if you would like. Michael mm@mezalick.com I don’t have the issue, I’m not the original poster. I was just stating vectors can be unknowingly selected when recalculated or things moved around resulting in a error at controller. Gerry said otherwise, so I thought it was good information to share |
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