good morning NIKIGIO italy

[nikigio]

I hope it's the right place to introduce myself.
I am an Italian carpenter who does not speak ENGLISH but I am committed.
My name is Giovanni I am 51 years old.
I live in Trento in Northern Italy.
I have recently embarked on the path of the CNC, and I am very ignorant.
For a few days I have an AXIOM ar8 pro v5 with Uccnc and I use Aspire.
I am a designer and have been using autocad 2d / 3d for thirty years.
I want to create cutting boards with the v-carving technique ... help me please.
Thank you

[Neil]

Hello Giovanni, welcome.

I have really enjoyed the Aspire training videos. They are detailed and with great examples. That is a good place to start.

I am sure you get lots of advice from this forum. I like to learn by doing, and to beging with run practice cuts with no bit and zero spindle speed so I can see what will happen with minimal risk.

Regards,
Neil

[nikigio]

Thank you
Aspire I learned to use it just by watching all the videos on youtube possible.
The machine is already running, I went from small drawings to easy clipart.
I'm in full immersion.
I have given myself specific times to learn.
I don't find a really well done tutorial explaining v-carving for cutting boards.
Do you have any video or web page to show me?
please.

[gerry]

Sept 2, 2020 15:03:23 GMT -5 nikigio said:

I don't find a really well done tutorial explaining v-carving for cutting boards.
Do you have any video or web page to show me?
please.


Do you want Vcarving or V-bit Inlay (Zank Inlay)? 


Vcarve Inlay (Zank Inlay)



Vcarve (No inlay)

[nikigio]

thanks gerry i didn't know there were two terms.

Vcarve inlay to make life difficult.

zank what does it mean ??

[gerry]

Paul Zank is the guy that invented using a V-bit for carving inlay pocket and insert. It's being used to differentiate between a 'normal' straight sided inlay and a V-bit inlay.

VCarve_Inlay_Description_and_Procedure.pdf (1.08 MB)

[nikigio]

I download the file and translate.
you are very helpful I have to thank you.
But you'll see, I'll be able to stress you out.

[nikigio]

Sept 3, 2020 13:25:16 GMT -5 gerry said:

Paul Zank is the guy that invented using a V-bit for carving inlay pocket and insert. It's being used to differentiate between a 'normal' straight sided inlay and a V-bit inlay.

Bed.
But that's wrong !! on p. 4
The graph is incorrect.
It's "inlay Start depth" which must be 0.2 "!
Otherwise there is no 0.1 "left for the glue.
Consequently, "inlay flat depth" must be 0.1 ".
I'm right??

[johnb]

Sept 8, 2020 9:47:41 GMT -5 nikigio said:

Note that the Inlay Pocket Flat Depth is 0.3"
Only part of what you are carving on the Inlay Backing is going into the Inlay Pocket.
With an Inlay Start Depth of 0.1", you are milling off the first 1/10th of an inch of the Inlay Backing to produce the surface against which the glue will attach ...so that 1/10th of an inch is gone.
That leaves you (after cutting to the Inlay Flat Depth on the Inlay Backing) with 0.2" of material "dropping into" a hole (in the Inlay Pocket) that's 0.3" deep...thus leaving your 1/10th inch glue space.

Sept 3, 2020 13:25:16 GMT -5 gerry said:

Paul Zank is the guy that invented using a V-bit for carving inlay pocket and insert. It's being used to differentiate between a 'normal' straight sided inlay and a V-bit inlay.

Bed.
But that's wrong !! on p. 4
The graph is incorrect.
It's "inlay Start depth" which must be 0.2 "!
Otherwise there is no 0.1 "left for the glue.
Consequently, "inlay flat depth" must be 0.1 ".
I'm right??

[nikigio]

Sept 8, 2020 10:32:48 GMT -5 johnb said:

Sept 8, 2020 9:47:41 GMT -5 nikigio said:

Note that the Inlay Pocket Flat Depth is 0.3"
Only part of what you are carving on the Inlay Backing is going into the Inlay Pocket.
With an Inlay Start Depth of 0.1", you are milling off the first 1/10th of an inch of the Inlay Backing to produce the surface against which the glue will attach ...so that 1/10th of an inch is gone.
That leaves you (after cutting to the Inlay Flat Depth on the Inlay Backing) with 0.2" of material "dropping into" a hole (in the Inlay Pocket) that's 0.3" deep...thus leaving your 1/10th inch glue space.


Bed.
But that's wrong !! on p. 4
The graph is incorrect.
It's "inlay Start depth" which must be 0.2 "!
Otherwise there is no 0.1 "left for the glue.
Consequently, "inlay flat depth" must be 0.1 ".
I'm right??

ok !!
So I'm right, the graph is wrong on page. 4 right ??

[nikigio]

Thanks to your help, I made my first inlay!

But I don't understand how to upload the image.

[johnb]

Sept 11, 2020 2:03:13 GMT -5 nikigio said:

Thanks to your help, I made my first inlay!

But I don't understand how to upload the image.

Glad it worked.  I think what you want to do is click the gray box for "Add Attachment" on the right side of the ribbon bar that appears when you're creating a post.  5 mb file size limit.

As for "I am right" (above)...no, the graph is not wrong.

When you set a start depth of something other than zero, what you are effectively telling the machine is this:

"Cut out the entire thing as drawn...then go back and shave off everything above the start depth" (in this case, go back and shave off the top 1/10th of an inch)

Even though it doesn't cut the file in that sequence, that is effectively what it's doing.  

[nikigio]

Sept 13, 2020 8:49:28 GMT -5 johnb said:

Sept 11, 2020 2:03:13 GMT -5 nikigio said:

Thanks to your help, I made my first inlay!

But I don't understand how to upload the image.

Glad it worked.  I think what you want to do is click the gray box for "Add Attachment" on the right side of the ribbon bar that appears when you're creating a post.  5 mb file size limit.

As for "I am right" (above)...no, the graph is not wrong.

When you set a start depth of something other than zero, what you are effectively telling the machine is this:

"Cut out the entire thing as drawn...then go back and shave off everything above the start depth" (in this case, go back and shave off the top 1/10th of an inch)

Even though it doesn't cut the file in that sequence, that is effectively what it's doing.  

Thanks for the information.
If you are right, the graph is correct, the error is in page 4 when it says 0.1 inches for the glue, while in page. 9 correctly writes 0.2 inches for the glue.
This confused me so I thought the design was wrong.

[nikigio]

[Mezalick]

Very Nice,glad to hear you got it resolved...

Michael

[nikigio]

I had enlightenment, it is then a matrix.
Thank you

[nikigio]

I come back to visit you to thank once again all those who have helped me.

This is one of the many works of which I am proud..

[grossmsj]

Wow! That's beautiful. I love how you've used the wood grains. Very distinguished and fitting for their brand.
You have learned well. Now you can teach us